Hacking Your Mind & Body to Achieve
Less Pleasure and
More Happiness

with guest

Dr. Robert Lustig

by | Dec 28, 2021

Show Notes

Once upon a time, pleasure was scarce and expensive. But now with manufactured food available on every shelf and street corner, we’ve begun to consume massive amounts of sugar for that quick and easy dopamine boost thinking it’ll make us happy. But what if I told you that pleasure and happiness aren’t meant to be treated as interchangeable concepts? Today’s guest, Dr. Lustig discusses how the food industry hacked our bodies which resulted in the present epidemic of addiction and sadness, and provides suggestions on how we can move back towards contentment and satisfaction. 

Dr. Robert Lustig graduated with a Bachelor’s in Science from MIT, a Doctorate in Medicine from Cornell University. Medical College, and a Master’s of Studies in Law from U.C. Hastings College of the Law. He has sparked a global conversation about metabolic health and nutrition, debunking some of the most common misconceptions about diet-related disease. Author of the books, Fat Chance, The Hacking of the American Mind, and Metabolical, he believes that by focusing on real food, we can beat the odds against sugar, processed food, obesity, and disease.

Episode Highlights:

  • Dr. Lustig’s journey in pediatric endocrinology and law to effectuate policy change (3:30)
  • How the dopamine reward pathway works (7:53)
  • Economics plays a role in the addictive nature of sugar (12:18)
  • Pleasure and happiness are two different concepts (15:32)
  • The Phenomenon of Tolerance (18:37)
  • Dr. Lustig’s views on psychedelics and cannabis (24:34)
  • Achieving growth: food vs. supplementation (29:25)
  • Lower your dopamine and raise your serotonin with The 4 C’s (39:56)
  • Is Dr. Lustig hopeful for the future? (45:56)


Luella Jonk


Dr. Robert Lustig